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biden and mitch mcconnell. earlier republicans suggested changing the way inflation is calculated on changes like social security read offered this reaction late in the day. >> i was really grass fied to hear republicans taking command by social security set off the table. this should never have been on the table to begin with. there is still significant difference between the two sides negotiations continue. still time left to reach an agreement. >> meanwhile west virginia democrat joe mansion introduced the calm act trying to soften the blow as the country goes off the fiscal cliff. it would maphase in tax hikes or the years and prioritize spending cuts. he says he's frustrated and tried to do something. >> it was crossing the wires it's more than frustration it sounds like desperation at this point as they are losing hope. the chained cpi the social security adjustment you were talking about basically changes the way they configure the cost of living and would make those benefits smaller checks. does it sound like republicans are willing to let that go? >> seems like they are w
for the wealthiest americans are protected. blacks mitch mcconnell is vowing to find out. -- >> mitch mcconnell is vowing to find out. >> can the senate veteran help congress tumble to a deal on the last day? >> if we do go off the fiscal cliff, congress would be more likely to make a deal. members could claim they are cutting taxes. >> thank you. if america does fall off the fiscal cliff on the first of the year, maryland would be hit hard. hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of thousands of jobs lost. >> we have a lot of federal workers and businesses that rely on the federal government. many are watching the negotiations closely. if partisan politics prevail and they cannot reach a deal, americans in maryland will burden will -- will be burdened. legislativent of observances had a report about what the impact would be. if we fall off the fiscal cliff. maryland will lose $178 million in funding next year. economists say to make up for it, the state will have to make cuts. >> it will be a challenge to make the ends meet. >> the greater economic impact could be huge hit in sales and income
no decision tonight. we have also learned senator mitch mcconnell, the republican minority leader, has had conversations directly with vice president biden. mcconnell had been working with senate majority leader harry reid, but he and biden have gotten things done when working together in the past. can they do it now? let's go to dana bash. dana, what do you think? is it promising? can they go it now? >> reporter: well, let's start there. it certainly has happened before between these two men, and it's happened before when democrats on capitol hill are either split or have gotten, frankly, just too frustrated with the republican counterparts to have conversations to be able to find bipartisan agreement. these are the two men who negotiated an extension of the bush era tax cuts for two years. that happened two years ago when republicans had a lot of political capital because they just won the house in a big way. whether or not these two men are actually going to be the ones to strike a deal, we're not sure, but we are told, our ted barrett and jessica yellin and i are told by multiple sourc
and the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell but there is not a deal until senator mcconnell knows he has enough support. let's take a look at some of the key points of a framework of the deal according to sources close to the talks. it would raise taxes on income tax amounts above $400,000 for individuals, $450,000 for families. it would address the estate tax, the alternative minimum tax, the medicare doc fix and unemployment insurance. current discussions about how best to address the automatic spending cuts that is called sequestration, the automatic cuts to defense, and domestic programs. a short time ago a leading republican expressed a great deal of concern and frustration with the whole process. >> it's december the 31st. january 1st is tomorrow, 2013, taxes go up. everybody agrees it will be disaster for the economy. we can't allow that to happen. we'll ruin the economy. but where we were? where were we for the pass month, and the month before that, and the month before that, dealing what we knew was going to be the very set of circumstances that we face today. >> reporter: it so
and mitch mcconnell say they're confident they can find a compromise, but then they have to sell it to john painter and his fellow republicans before -- to don banner -- john painter and his fellow republicans before the deadline. >> he has called them back for a rare saturday session. this sunday, president obama will be the exclusive guest on "meet the press. you can catch the interview right here tomorrow at 10:00 a.m.. >> the third winner storm of the week came in without much of a bang for most folks. in pennsylvania, it brought snow and high wind. they expect to get up to 8 inches of snow by tomorrow morning. driving confessions -- conditions are so hazardous they have set a 45-mile an hour speed limit on the turnpike. we are fortunate not to see those kind of conditions here. >> many people we talked to are wondering what happened to all of this note from earlier today. as you can see, it is gone. the snow took it time to commend to the area. when it finally arrived, it did not stick around long. take a look at kids having a good time playing in this note earlier today. the first sig
."vice-president joe biden is apparently hat person for senatt minoriiy leader mitch mcconnell. top-level sources say the two arr taking over talks. if nothing is ressoved by midnight tonight, tax rates forrall americans will increase. democrats say it for the average middle-class family."one moo said to me in michigan, hat's four monthh groceries. i mean that's work in gas for up to three years, i mean that's a loo of money."democrats want higher taxes on families earning 250-thousand-dollars a year and over. epublicans want tax rates to stay where they are. taxes seem to be he biggest obstacle to a coopromise. but others want to see government spending ppt in cceck."the about the addiction thht his administrrtion has to spending. he's the spender in he's wiiling to do that."i s offered over a trillion dollars in additional spending dollars of spending cuts ffr o revenue.""the senate stands in - recess"the senate reconvenes at 11-a-m. so as americans 20013, they may waae up of wishing it were 20-12, when they had more money in their pockets. i'' andrew spencer reporting. even if lawmakers don't
,000, a level that mitch mcconnell reportedly said he might be able to sel? republicans won the debate shifted. >> the talk about taxes, but what it should be about is what we want to talk about today -- the medicare fiscal cliff. >> no date to cut a day to reform entitlements by tuesday. >> if we do something right now to have long-lasting, adverse effects on economic growth, that will affect us for a long time. >> until the cliff, americans say fix the tax problem. >> it's so frustrating to see both sides so far apart. >> we should not be taxed more because they cannot work together. >> get the middle class down and figure of the rest of it come january, worst case. >> worst case? no deal on anything. some tea party republicans are ready to let everyone is taxes rise so they can quickly help fix the problem and claim they voted to cut taxes. wbal-tv 11 news. >> some good news and now with the ravens officially in the playoffs. now is your chance to get the post season tickets. >> if you get any, send them my way. we will let you know where to get them coming up. >> the following monument in
. >> thank you so much. we just got word that the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell will be going before cameras shortly so that could be market-moving as well. we'll wait to see what that is. >> when he speaks, we'll bring him to you. flows into stocks-based mutual and exchange traded funds have posted 8 billion and bonds, on the other hand, have taken less than 1 billion. a bit of a rotation going on here. should investors be putting money to work in equities despite today's selloff? >> the battle of stocks versus bond. with us cnbc's jeff cox and kathy jones from charles schwab. waiting to see what the ten-year note is doing. it's come back sharply now with the buying of stocks here. i mean, there is this either/or going on right now, safety vers versus risks, right? >> doing this all year long, news about the economy or settlement of the fiscal cliff issue, the bond market sells off a little bit and the market rallies. here we are again. hope springs eternal. >> let's say we get a deal in the near term, some sort of a framework deal. does that mean we'll see rates on the treas
on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is getting the tax issue off the table and then having a big knockdown, drag-down fight with the president in six weeks over the debt ceiling. under that scenario, that would tell me, okay, he's likely to want to make a deal. when you look at the actions that republicans threw out that idea of throwing in the social security change and suddenly democrats balked -- and he pulled it from the table. mitch mcconnell wants to make the deal, get the tax issue off the table simply because he thinks having more leverage -- if you leave taxes there, it gives the white house and democrats more leverage in the debt ceiling. even if they get a deal today we have a big fight in the next six weeks. >> if there is a deal today can it about get passed in time to avoid the fiscal c
? what about senate minority leader mitch mcconnell? >> well, the thing at this point and i'm told by sources is that there are no negotiations going on between senator mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, and senator majority leader harry reid in hawaii for the funeral of daniel inouye and is now back to washington. it could come down to the senate doing something. senator mcconnell might allow this bill i mentioned that i already passed in july, was a threshold for tax hikes, being at the $250,000 level, he may allow democrats to say, the house has to take this, or if there is some sort of vote on another measure, while mitch mcconnell would be unlikely to support it, perhaps he might let some of his republican senators do that, now, this is sort of thinking, coming from democrats, this is not something that mitch mcconnell at this point is planning to do, and it's very much unclear. the fact is, it doesn't just matter what the senate does, don, the house would have to pass something. and whatever were to come out of the senate at this point would require not jus
. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hurdles. if they have the votes around here, they can legislate the sky is green and the grass is blue. that's not an issue. what harry reid is really saying is mitch mcconnell, get on board, don't try to filibuster. of course they're talking about a bill that had raise capital on couples making more than $250,000 a year, and do a few other nuts and bolts that are deemed the bare minimum that the president wants to see done before we hit january 1st. i've got to tell you, though, getting back to the votes, the votes simply aren't there in the house of representatives for that. they're likely not even there in the senate, so we're back at square one, amazing as it is to say at this point, thomas. >> when we talk about what we know about the presid
with the president, the democratic leader in the senate, harry reid, and the republican leader mitch mcconnell have come together and they have saved the day. they did it again and again. it happened in 2010, when mitch mcconnell actually worked with joe biden to extend the bush tax cuts and they got a bunch of stimulus passed. it happened in 2011 when reid and mcconnell were key in resolving the debt ceiling fight. and people thought it could happen again this time. what's different now is mitch mcconnell is up for re-election. and it is weird to say this aloud, what i'm about to tell you. i have never even thought about how weird it is to say until tonight's broadcast. but the person mitch mcconnell has in his head right now, the person he's maybe a bit afraid of, is ashley judd. yeah. that ashley judd. >> don't cry. don't cry. you're going to be fine. >> okay. >> mitch mcconnell's up for re-election potentially against ashley judd. she might be running against him. and she's polling well. they're only about four points apart. so he doesn't want any trouble. he certainly does not want a conservat
leader, mitch mcconnell. to me, what is most interesting there is the fact that it seems to be that this opening of dialogue between mitch mcconnell and the vice president, who have a good relationship, very good working relationship, trust each other have done deals before. the fact that he sees hope there is interesting. there's not a lot of hope right now going on here but the fact that he said that is noteworthy. i should also tell that you we told you earlier that we expect harry reid to come out to the microphones. i was just told that is not going to happen, should not exact him to come and talk us to after his meeting, which is going on behind those doors right now with democrats. >> dana bash, great to have that insight from the republican side of things. we will hear from the democrats later. >>> bring in ali velshi, we want the financial perspective on all of this won't be long before the markets are open and reacting and i guess that's maybe where rill begin ali, i know only a half day of trading. >>> it is going to be a full day of trading tomorrow but the la
, it will come down to those pesky details. vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell the republican leader have been the key figures in these negotiations after talks stalled over the weekend between mcconnell and senate majority leader harry reid. mcconnell says he and the vice president spoke last night at 12:45, again at 6:30 this morning. mcconnell explained why he reached out to his former senate colleague mr. biden. >> i also placed a call to the vice president to see if he could help jump start the negotiations on his side. the vice president and i have worked together on solutions before, and i believe we can again. >> obviously we were watching to see what the senate does at this hour, what is said at this point i'm hearing it sound like 2:00 eastern time may be another critical time, when they may run by their members, the republicans and the democrats, the latest on those talks, and if there is a deal the details of the deal, jon. jon: we just had senate majority leader read making some remarks from the microphone, perhaps i'll get to word from the control
removed himself from these discussions. harry reid, president obama, and a little bit of mitch mcconnell. what is possible of making a deal? >> the ball seems to be in mitch mcconnell's court. does he filibuster anything that harry reid ends up making with president obama? we have a paired down legislation extending for income below $250,000 and doing something with unemployment insurance that you were talking about? the question is a senate filibuster, democrats need 60 votes and republican votes, mcconnell ends up filibustering and will there be senators who support the legislation and blocking the filibuster. a lot of gymsmanship and republicans when you lock at the situation in the house and the inability to pass along the other things, they are on the verge of taking a lot of blame if they filibuster the legislation and the house doesn't act on it. >> and only democratic support developing here. how much is he going to agree with the president when he has the election in 2014? some folks don't want to appear in any way too close to president obama right now. >> let's move on in term
senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, the top republican in the senate, and vice president joe biden. these are the two players right now. they discussed a possible remedy late into the night, around midnight, we are told, by an aide to mitch mcconnell, and at least at the staff level negotiations began again this morning. the question everyone wants to know, suzanne, of course, is are we going over the cliff? it appears very -- it's sort of unclear at this point. it's difficult to see how we kind of don't logistically and politically at this point, but the president has said he's optimistic, and so have some republicans. >> brianna, finally, what is the drop dead last deadline here in terms of whether or not we know this is going to happen or it's not going to happen? >> reporter: that's interesting because everyone would presume the drop dead deadline is tonight, and obviously to avert some of these tax cuts expiring, and it's not just these income tax rates, it's a bunch of other things as well and these spending cuts, that would be tonight. but the sense i'm getting and the sense
than expected because of, say, harry reid and mitch mcconnell are able to work something out? >> reporter: i think that that is very likely. you heard president obama sort of signal that he's going to do that when he spoke on friday. he talked about the fact he'll be seeing everyone this week. we get the sense that he is prepared to cut the vacation short. i would not be surprised to see president obama heading back to washington, d.c. at the end of this week. thomas? >> set the sand on the soles as soon as you can. >> reporter: i will. >> merry christmas. thanks. >> reporter: you, too. >>> there are senators on both sides of the aisle saying that the best hope before the new year is a small and temporary deal that will at least buy americans some time. >> i think there's unfortunately only a small deal. i think we'll get past it but we have to get to the big deal. >> we can't let taxes go up on working people in this country. it is going to be a patch because in four days we can't solve everything. >> all right. let's dig in and talk more. joining me is lynn sweet and bob cu
leader mitch mcconnell. john boehner not in this, nancy pelosi isn't in this, not even the president. the house reconvenes at 10:00, the senate at 11:00, bright and early. sarcastic. neither of them showing particular signs of progress. >> these two worked together in the senate for 20 years. so you hope -- >> in fairness, the houses are not convening. these guys are not working. i don't care if it doesn't play out in the media. the big stumbling block has been avoided. republicans dropped their demand to reduce social security cost of living increases. >> i was really gratified to hear republicans had taken the demand for social security benefits off the table. truth is, they never should have been on the table to begin with there is still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. i'm interested in getting a result here. >> they have all been politically messaging, not sure why they are being critical of it now. thousands of there's of your t
. clear previously.en leer the fact that mitch mcconnell is vouched in discussions is encouraging if something can't pass the senate with a lot of republican votes it is not going to pass the house either. i think for the first time we see some constructive engainlment at least. >> sean: i heard a little different story than senator toomey and that is that a lot of what we are seeing told is really for show and the fielding is that the president made up his mind. he wants to go over the fiscal cliff and sees a political advantage to negotiating this in january. what have you heard, sir? >> i watched the president's press conference. basically we were told it was a serious discussion and there was a recognition on the part of president obama and senator reid that they are going to have to it craft a piece of legislation that would get a great deal of support from republicans in the senate because they realize that is the only way something is going to pass in the house. let's be encouraged by the fact that we are finally talking seriously, that there is going to be serious discussi
republican leader mitch mcconnell adding his voice to a day that has seen a number of people talking, including that man, harry reid, the majority leader of the senate. we've been getting mixed signals. the biggest signal we got was regarding the house which is coming back to -- reconvening sunday night, and that brought the market back in a big way, but now we're hearing from mitch mcconnell and let's bring in eamon javers there on capitol hill, i mean, the rumor had been, a lot of traders talking here, eamon, that maybe there's a dell brewing between the president and the senate. that doesn't sound like anything is going on right now according to rich mcconnell. >> what we got was a facebook post from scott brown who said he was come back to washington and jumping on an airplane to review some new proposal from the president that they expected to get. the whole afternoon has been spent by reporters trying -- trying to figure out what was going on. now harry vaed responding to mcconnell so let's right to it. >> he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains i've not d
and mitch mcconnell will agree to anything that won't get a majority of votes in both of their caucuses. but then the next move is obviously going to be the house, which is where i am right now. i'm with a republican member of the house, darrell issa. thank you for joining us. can you react to what the president said? >> i think i'm pleased there may be a deal, bring some certainty to the american people. i'm disappointed that the president took the eve of what might be a bipartisan deal to take a swipe at congress once again. i think the president fails to understand what senator barroso said repeatedly, which is it is a failure of leadership that we're in this boat. having said that, i think all of us would like to have certainty for the american people come january 1st. >> reporter: and obviously goes without saying, excuse me, that the president, in your words, took a swipe, because there say lot of frustration, among democrats, with house republicans. they think house republicans held this up for a long time and demanding more spending cuts than could pass. >> you know, the amazing
see out there in the near term. >> the building that read has passed. let's lis ep to what mitch mcconnell said about that? >> the senate bill passed with ome democratic votes and despite this repeated calls for the house to pass it. he knows that he himself is the reason it can't happen. the paperwork never left the senate. i said at that time we knew it didn't pass constitutional muster. it has one procedural rule for congress that all tax bills must reg nate in the house of representatives. of course they can do what they want. there is a niss of ways in which they have got ten around this thing in the past. as to why they are not passing the ball. if this is what he is clinning to now, it is like he is not clinging to much. >> this is a chamber that has not seen is some of the greatest offereds come through it. and here he is saying the paperwork has yet to leave the senate. >> and he also knows that it is silly. yes, that particular big cannot be taken up in the house. but sandy levin has a bill that is i'd wall. all bhoehner has to do is make those changes on the noor. the idea that
surprised and isn't it interesting that vice president joe biden and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell have taken this thing and put it together i think it is quite interesting to me. >> it speaks to the power of personal relationship to me. interestingly it speaks to the relationship between mcconnell and harry reid. clearly the personal animosity got to be too much for those two to continue negotiating. clearly the president was happy with biden being a part of this final push here. if the reports are right, he is coming up to sell the deal to him. a lot of whom have expressed reservations about him. >> now, let's get reaction from the senate side. senator tom coburn as always sir, if we are going to throw over the see quester, i get that, but the thing that bothers me the most. if we are going to substitute tax revenues instead, i think that leads us down the wrong road. i agree. look, cutting $1.2 trillion over the next ten years was hard one to battle hard for the country to go through. what is being proposed now is $600 billion in tax increased with about a fifth of it to be spen
. >> majority leader harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell say they're confident they come to a compromise but they have to sell it to john boehner and fellow republicans before the deadline. >> president obama will be david gregory's exclusive guest on "meet the press" later this morning. you can watch his interview at 10:00 a.m. former president george h.w. bush is out of intensive care and said to be improving this morning. he is in a regular room at houston methodist hospital. a family spokesperson says the family thanks everyone for their prayers and good wishes. he is being treated for a cough. a lawyer for one of the survivors of the newtown school massacre says the state of connecticut didn't do enough to keep kids safe and wants to sue for $100 million. the attorney says the state failed to provide a safe setting for his clintd, an unidentified 6-year-old girl. he says after hearing gunfire, she was left with emotional scars. to howard county where police say they've cracked a string of burglaries that hit homes in columbia and ellicott city. nadia ramdass has the
progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >> we've been asking you, our viewers, to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives. so let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to grow this economy for the long term not the short term. >> there you go. for the long term, not the short term. >> there you go. i'm don lemon. happy new year to you. jooirksz . >>> hello, i'm don lemon and this is cnn's top 10 of 2012. we look at the stories that captured our attention, what we see as the biggest stories of the year around the world, in crime, money, weather and even the biggestscandals and later this hour, those stories chosen by you. anchor of state of the union, candy crowley, with the top ten political stories of 2012. >>> like finding your favorite grain of sand on the beach. impossible number of p
. i think the key player is mitch mcconnell to watch. we're getting potentially more information about what is happening next. our capitol hill producer deidre walsh was there when some of the leaders returned and she spoke with nancy pelosi who said this meeting was constructive and candid. here's what is especially interesting. nancy pelosi told reporters that the president led a meeting that ended with senators reid and mcconnell trying to work something out between the two of them. now it seems like we've gone from a process that was president obama and speaker boehner and then today to five leaders back to two. and those two, for the moment, seem to be senator reid and senator mccon until. also, i had a source in senator mcconnell's office who said we should be getting a statement from the republican leader of the senate any time now. so that statement will tell us a lot, candy. >> it will. but we also know that even though it's in the senate hands now which is basically where speaker boehner tossed it when he couldn't get his plan b passed by his own caucus, it doesn't mean that
they are not cueing the confetti just yet. senator mitch mcconnell, the republican leader on the hill, is still talking to the white house. the white house is in constant contact with the democratic leader harry reid. and they're working towards some kind of an agreement. but the white house has all along had -- during these past few days, been somewhat hopeful that they could reach some kind of agreement in the senate. all along, they have been far less optimistic that there would be an agreement that can get through the house. only because from the white house's perspective, from democrats' perspective broadly, they've been let down time and again by speaker boehner. they've never been able to reach a deal with speaker boehner. and now with this news that the house is going to be breaking for the evening, it does look like that might happen again. now, there's one reason, wolf, why they are filling this package with measures that could appeal to democrats, not just, as you mentioned, increasing, letting taxes for the highest income earners go to clinton rates. also extending unemployment bene
of in the works between harry reid and mitch mcconnell, maybe it's not voted on until monday, maybe no deal at all. maybe sequestration is going to happen so for that let's go to washington. >> juliet: all right. tick-tock, tick-tock, time is almost up for lawmakers as we say to avert the fiscal cliff. they worked throughout the weekend in hopes of hammering out some sort of deal. >> dave: peter doocy is live in washington and we hustle you over to the capitol. and what is the latest, do you think we'll get something done? >> reporter: dave, we were told late in the evening that legislative staff was going to work through the night, but the only principal we heard from was mitch mcconnell who said he and his democratic counterparts have been trading paper all day saturday, but the only big news, mcconnell cared to share with us, in the state he represents, kentucky, louisville beat the university of kentucky by three and meanwhile, the officially republican weekly address features another republican senator explaining once again why a deal before monday night's deadline is so important. >> at a ti
with mitch mcconnell, because the deal wasn't getting done at the senate. nerves are frayed, emotions are running high. but at this point, i got to tell you, outside of those circles of political commentary, the words most people are getting is that just get a deal done. just get something done. it's kind of fascinating we're now at 20 after 7:00 on the east coast. we're not even sure there is a deal that can be voted on by the senate. we certainly know it's not going to be voted on by the house until tomorrow. touchy times in washington. we probably have to discount the way people say things more than they do. in fact, we're taking a look now at the senate floor. dana bash has been working her sources in congress, talking to pretty much everybody out there with an opinion on it. dana, what are you drawing? what conclusions are you drawing from what you're hearing? >> let me give you a little bit of color of what i witnessed, maybe better to say what i smelled coming over here. i took the back way where senators have hide aways in the capital, and i smelled a lot of firewood. people a
that and everything else happen and both sides are still pointing fingers. take a look at mitch mcconnell and harry reid just this afternoon. >> you'll excuse me if i'm a little frustrated at the situation. >> republican leader finds himself frustrated. >> i say i'm frustrated because we have been asking the president and the democrats to work with us. >> he complains i have not delivered the votes to pass the solution to the fiscal cliff. he's in error. >> i told the president i would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. >> he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. >> as i said, this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> we have nobody to work with, compromise. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check. >> we can't negotiate with ourselves. that's all we're doing. >> we don't have many days left. >> we're in the same situation we have been in for a long time. >> as you can see, senate is back in session today. the house plans to be back on sunday. more now on the breaking news. senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins us now from capitol hill. chief whi
enough votes, so essentially everything shifts right now to the senate. so harry reid, mitch mcconnell, nancy please elosi on the house to say here are the number of democrats i could get if you offer a compromise package. but this is really a tough situation because there's so little time left and we've already seen the markets impacted by this. so if we do go over the cliff, if you look at the polls, most americans saying republicans will bear the brunt. they will blame republicans, but the bottom line is the president will get a lot of blame as well because this is going to impact a lot of people. >> right. nbc's kristin welker keeping us honest at the white house. we will stand by. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. >>> joining us for analysis are two of my favorite guys, both former chairs of the democratic committee, pk to you both. >> karen. >> thanks, karen. >> governor rendell, i'm going to start with you, what do you make of this meeting? to some degree -- do we really expect we're going to get some substance out of this meeting or is this more for the optics so both sides ca
to mitch mcconnell, hey, if we jump off of this bridge, cliff, as it were, we're going to hold hands with you and not only bring along some republicans jumping off this cliff here but you have to make sure that john boehner comes along, too, and put something on the floor that's not going to get the majority of the majority republicans in the house of represent evs. that is the predicate, that is the condition in the senate. no one believes that john boehner will take that leap holding the hands of harry reid or mitch mcconnell, for that matter. the preponderance of opinion, the overwhelming belief and suspicion, however you want to phrase it, here in the capitol and downtown on k street is going over the cliff. only question now is how many days to extend past january 1st before they come back and do something about this, toure. >> yeah. well, mike just picking up on that point then, i guess that's the republicans all of their actions and pronouncements indicated that this, the timing and the sequence of this really matters to them in terms of, look, all the bush rates expiring on j
of legislation would look like and reports they got from republicans and the president told mitch mcconnell that he would get the details. that's where from the perspective of republicans where things stand. the president publicly said before he left for his vacation in hawaii since everything else was deadlocked, despite everybody's efforts, because of that what he wants to happen is for the very least for congress to pass a tax cut extension for 98% of americans. his plan which he campaigned on for five years. mitch mcconnell spoke to the president as did the other leaders before the president left hawaii. what mcconnell aide is still saying is that the impression he got is that the white house would or at least some democrat whether it's the white house or harry reid's office would provide the details of what that legislation would look like. they said with tongue firmly in cheek, we checked in a process conference and it can't get through the senate. we need to see if anything will get done and at the same time jessica is hearing from white house sources, i am hearing for democratic sou
of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he doesn't see how it can get done by january 1st. we heard from president obama before he left from his vacation that he was optimistic. logistically the white house will tell you it's possible. when you listen to what you're hearing some of these congressional leaders say, there's a lot of posturing laying blame to the other side if we do go over the cliff. take a listen. >> republicans are not about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies, watching their kids play soccer, basketball, doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, house speaker j
are expecting to hear from republican leader mitch mcconnell, maybe even senate majority leader harry reid, as of now so far as we know there is no fiscal cliff deal, but negotiations primarily betweens those two men are going on even as we speak or between their staffs. we're hearing a new sense of optimism from some senate members who believe they might be able to pass some kind of minimalist package that would keep tax rates from going up on the majority of americans. i want to go to capitol hill and cnn's senior congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, is that the sense you get that somehow we should be optimistic about whatever it is that's going on? >> you know, as we talked about before, you definitely get a feeling or the atmosphere here is that there is progress being made but in the same breath, but, there are still thingsing to worked out. as we wait for what we generally see when the senate opens which is the pledge of allegiance, a prayer and so forth, if you see the bottom of your screen, i'm not sure if you can see it, white hair, that is harry reid, the senate majority
this ou. at the same time, if hrry reid and mitch mcconnell working on it how are you guys going to receive it when it gets over into your chamber? >> probay not well. here's the deal, this all could have been worked out some time ago. august of the end of july, the house-passed tax bill and senate over to the senate. there were free taken up an amended and take it back. that's the way things usually wowork. revenue bills must originate the house of representatives. we get to work six months ago. a work product six there and wait for the senate to take something up. here is what is troubling about all this. we will get through this this week however it turns out or next week, however turns out. you are right about the debt limit. that is going to recess well, and then just after that we have an appropriations lapse. so the first three months of the year you have fiscal cliff, debt limit, and appropriations laps all staring the american people in the face. i get it that people are sick of this combat at the same time it is because we have such an nasa's spending problem is the rea
leader harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell say they're confident they come to a compromise but they have to sell it to john boehner and fellow republicans before the deadline. >> president obama will be david gregory's exclusive guest on "meet the press" later this morning. you can watch his interview at 10:00 a.m. the nation'sup for gun show in delles this weekend. this weekend, organizers say there was overwhelming interest. in the wake of the sandy hook shootings, many people said they wanted to buy assault rifles before a possible ban. >> say something should happen and we no longer have right to purchase our guns, that means somebody got off this butt and decided to change the constitution, that will open the door to a lot of issues. >> the f.b.i. reported a record background checks for guns this year. a lawyer for one of the survivors of the newtown school massacre says the state and connecticut didn't do enough to keep the kids safe. lawyer irving pinsky said the state failed to provide a safe climate for his client's daughter. to howard county where police say they'
, was senator mitch mcconnell and here we have the majority leader in the senate, harry reid. let's listen in for a second. >> the house has reported by the press and we all know, one of the plans didn't have a name, it wasn't plan b. i don't know which plan it was because they've had a number over there. but this plan was to show the american people that the $250,000 ceiling on raising taxes wouldn't pass in the house. why didn't they have that vote? because it would have passed. they wanted to kill it. the speaker wanted to show everybody that it wouldn't pass the house. but he couldn't bring it up for vote because it wouldn't pass. republicans -- a myriad of republicans think it's the fair thing to do and of course every democrat would vote for that. the republican leader finds himself frustrated that the president has called on him to help address the fiscal cliff. he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains that i have not passed the resolution to pass the fiscal cliff but he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the senate the relief that wo
a long history of talks and bipartisan negotiations with mitch mcconnell. i want to, over the past hour, we have spoken to two republican senators, i wanted to talk to claire mccaskill, thanks very much for joining us, they just ended their almost two-hour meeting, martin, two hours, what was going on in there behind those door? >> i know you will be shocked to hear that a lot of senators wanted to talk. >> that is shocking. >> everyone wanted to have their same i think the consensus is that we all still want to try to get a deal but some of us are very discouraged that what appears to be on the table now doesn't really do anything to reduce the deficit and this was all supposed to be an exercise in bringing down our deficit and our long-term debt and where we are right now, it doesn't appear that we are getting that done and even more importantly, it appears that republicans are still trying to protect the tippy top as opposed to looking after the greater good of the economy and middle class families. >> as far as you-all were told by the democratic leader, where do you think stands --
with mitch mcconnell. still there are senate democrats some of them who say this tax plan favors the rich. >> if we're going to have some kind of a deal, the deal must be one that really does favor the middle class. the real middle class. those that are making 30, 50, $70,000 a year. that's the real middle class newark. -- america. as i see this thing developing, quite frankly, as i have said before, no deal is better than a bad deal and this looks like a very bad deal the way this is shaping up. >> some other senate democrats we have spoken to here on capitol hill say, look, it's not everything we wanted but it's a good enough compromise we should move forward with it senate republicans, especially in leadership say look, we have struck a deal with the white house and vice president joe biden here, we should vote on this tax part tonight. trace? >> trace: rich edson live for us on capitol hill. thank you. as lawmakers continue working on a compromise, much of the nation getting ready to watch the ball drop in times square. and security in new york city as tight as a drum. a few hours ago
of that stopgap, scaled down version. in fact, mitch mcconnell himself said in the hallway, just moments ago, that he does expect to go to the white house, as jessica just alluded to. he expects to do that tomorrow. they haven't gotten a formal invitation tomorrow. there's no time set for this meeting tomorrow, but mitch mcconnell says he does expect to go. and so that really does speak to the next move, tomorrow. >> well, that is good news. that is good news, senator mcconnell going to the white house tomorrow, hopefully. but i'm going to ask you about the house of representatives, dana. right now they've been called back to washington, not until sunday, december 30th. now, 48 hours before the fiscal cliff goes over, is that really enough time to get legislation passed, if there's a real deal on the table? >> reporter: is it enough time? probably. if there's really something that is going to pass the senate, and this is a big if, as jessica said, the oddsmakers are definitely seeing the fiscal cliff happening, us going over the fiscal cliff, but if senate does pass something, that would be
on a bipartisan deal ostensibly with his republican adversary mitch mcconnell. >> -- engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. >> well, if the senate manages to reach a compromise, the hope is that the house would follow. that's option one. the green one. option two is less certain. president obama reportedly challenged congressional leaders from both parties on friday to come up with a deal better than the one he proposed. the center piece of which is that the top marginal tax rate will increase for those earning $250,000 or more from 35% to 39.6%. that's only on the amount earned above that threshold. obama has told congress either they come up with something better or put his proposal to a vote. he's betting even those who hate the idea of a tax increase on the rich will hate causing america to go over the fiscal cliff even more. okay. option three. that's the red box. that's one where ame
get past this fiscal cliff, boehner and mitch mcconnell have made it clear the president wants a debt ceiling increase of any amount, like $1 trillion, he has to find $1 trillion in savings. >> well, according to corker and alexander, this is $1 trillion in savings from the medicare program if you do what they are suggesting here. >> all from spending, i hope? >> that's what they are saying. >> if it's all from spending, that's something we could do as part of the debt ceiling. that -- that's a fine suggestion. it -- it just shouldn't be confused with the present mess this week. >> but, they are adding this to the conversation if -- i mean, obviously we're not going to get something comprehensive before december 31, but as the talks continue, assuming they do into january, maybe even longer as we get closer to the debt ceiling, is this a kind of a compromise that you can accept on the other side? >> yes. it is very clear that boehner and mitch mcconnell have made clear, if the president wants a dollar of debt ceiling increase, we need to cut spending a dollar, and that goes for $1 tri
and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it to the house floor for a vote before new year's eve and house minority leader nancy pelosi
with mitch mcconnell. steve handelsman explains why some lawmakers might prefer to go over the cliff. >> reporter: the night before the fiscal cliff. >> the senate stands in recess. >> reporter: the senate gave until tomorrow. >> there still time left to reach an agreement. >> reporter: house lawmakers headed home, dropping a command to cut social security and hope the senate sends them a deal with minimal tax hikes on the rich. >> i'm still optimistic that we can get this averted before the final hour here tomorrow. >> reporter: when the clock strikes 2013, taxes go up on most americans. huge defense cuts kick in, which some republicans claim barack obama favors. >> it's obvious the president wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: on "meet the press," president obama blamed republicans. >> they say their biggest priority is dealing with the deficit, but the way they're behaving is their only priority is making sure taxes don't go up on the rich. >> reporter: the senate minority leader says -- >> i'm willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: enter
,000 per year at a cost of 157 billion. also passing the alternative minimum tax for $92 billion. mitch mcconnell is critical to hammering out a deal because he can filibuster any legislation, but his spokesman told me this morning nothing new to report. we don't know what senator reid plans to bring to the senate for a vote. >> truth of the matter is if we do fall off the cliff, he will come back, propose just what he proposed yesterday leaving washington, and will end up adopting at the washed up at the market in such turmoil and the lack of confidence, why don't we go ahead and act now. >> most numbers are used to spending the christmas to new year's at home, it is time to go back to the table. if anybody sees these representatives from the house in line shops are getting their christmas turkey wish them a merry christmas, civil and say go back to the table, not her own table, the table in washington. >> so there's a group of senate republicans who would vote for taxes on wealthier taxpayers now to get that done, avoid the cliff, move on and fight for spending cuts when the president asks to r
reid was just -- wasn't he great yesterday talking about mitch mcconnell and the republicans? no budget. >> and more than 14,000 longshoremen could go on strike this weekend because of a contract dispute. a walkout would close cargo ports. some estimates say a strike could cost the economy $1 billion a day. which would add up. it would kind of counteract the 85 billion. but bernanke is doing 2 billion a day, right? >> more. >> 2.5, yeah. so that would take away -- we could easily rachet it up. unless the printing presses overheat at that point. let's check on the markets this morning. the futures were indicated lower based on angst. there it is worse. it was down 40 earlier, not out 62. they were down 150 at one point. came back down to 18. we're somewhere. >> between there. let's check out some of these other boards that maybe we missed in the last hour. europe, europe is even moving on angst about the fiscal cliff or that stuff in japan. i don't know. very close. it's one or the other. let's check out asia. asia is actually up this morning. and then let's check out the oil board. oil
: that prompted mitch mcconnell to call for a lifeline. >> i also placed a call to the vice president to see if he could help jump-start the negotiations on his side. i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: and with that, vice president biden has now emerged as a key player, playing a direct role in the effort to strike a last-minute deal. the key sticking points remain the same. the white house wants taxes to go up on those making over $250,000 a year. republicans want a higher income threshold. they want to keep the estate tax from going up. there's still no agreement on what to do about those automatic spending cuts set to go into effect on january 2nd. both sides have said the cost of failure is extremely high. >> if we're not able to reach an agreement, it will be dire. probably at least another million jobs lost, an unemployment rate over 9% and putting us back into recession. >> reporter: vice president biden and mitch mcconnell had several conversations deep into the night. and will continue those conversations this morning. the conver
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